Dominance Theory Question
#21
Saw this article and thought of this discussion.
http://m.petmd.com/blogs/fullyvetted/200...Y.facebook
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Gotcha Day: November 14, 2015
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#22
Good share
I would definitely say I have suspected aggression begets aggression.
I have known some hard biters, many belonging to confrontational owners.
These dogs also were very harsh in their reprimands to other dogs. I have a theory on that. When I witnessed their owner be very overly corrective in dealing with the dog, the dog gave many appeasement signals which were totally ignored, probably because this is not about the dog this is about the owners short comings. So I felt the dog having had its signals ignored, kind of negated them. So eventually did not give them and did not "recognize" or acknowledge them in other dogs.
My background is of Canine psychology in which, observation was key during studying. It has always stayed with me. So having formed this theory I began to particularly to watch for this and found it to be true. Obviously my reasons for the behaviour are just my theory.
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#23
Great article, I bookmarked it.  

One of the things I thought about while reading the first list 'highest frequency of aggression' is that when people get used to being harsh towards their dogs I usually see them push it too far (thinking about yelling or the CM  television program).  I will say 'no' to my dogs, I have even yelled if I thought it was necessary to get their attention but the second I get my dogs attention I let it go.  Even if I am angry or upset I don't take it out on the dog (Not saying I am perfect.  I just learned lots from being the oldest of five, having three children of my own and having lots of pets).  I have watched people walk off of the agility course after a horrible run and they are giving their dog a negative rant on how bad the dog behaved and I'm sure the poor dog has no clue why their human is angry.
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#24
(03-10-2017, 12:44 PM)Ember Wrote: I still stew about my coworker wanting me to go with a company here in town (that apparently is a huge US chain). When I got Ember we had some not so great days to start with, and he had sent several dogs to this trainer. His current GSD 2 year old still has to wear the shock collar from when she was trained at 6 months. Coworker went so far as to have said trainer show up in the office and offer to train Ember for free if I would do some basic computer work for him - he really wanted to work with my dog. I described her as fearful and his response was "I can fix that in 3 weeks". Told me I had to board her with him and he'd return her to me a different dog.

To this day I still get quips from my coworker about "You wouldn't have to work this hard if you let someone else do it". So yes, they can be bullies, and there is no telling them otherwise. Of all the progress I've made with Ember, he will always believe I took the hard way and worked with less than successful people (he doesn't like my behaviorist), so therefore it's my fault she isn't "fixed".

Banghead

Some people are also aggressive with children, spouses, and employees.  They think you just have to 'break their will'.  I believe that dogs and other pets learn from kindness, demonstration, consistency, and praise.  So do children, spouses, and employees.  Bullying teaches compliance through fear.  When the bully is not present, the pet, child, spouse, or employee may revert to the target behavior because they feel that the undesirability of it is directly associated with the punisher, not the negatives of the behavior itself.

On another note, thanks for the help with the pic posting.  It worked!

   
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