As Stubborn as She is Sweet
#1
The second part of the Fenzi "tuck sit" exercise was a kick-back stand. Problem is, I've never been able to get Ember to stand on command in general - everything I've seen is just too much in her space.

This is a second attempt at getting her back end up based on instructor's first response (waiting on a second now). The response: "get the treat closer to her chest - that usually gets their back end moving".

Problem: apparently in Ember's brain that means "down", not "stand". Deb and Judy love Ember because she challenges their training and problem solving skills. Lets see what they come up with to change this girl's mind.



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Gotcha Day: November 14, 2015
Vet-Listed Birthday: May 2, 2014
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#2
I have the same problem. Mine also drop. I can get a full stand easy enough but can't figure out how to get a bow. Is a kick back stand the same as a bow ?
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#3
I have something for the bow! That's a fold back down. I'll post it below.

This is going from sitting to standing. Front feet don't move, back feet kick out into a stand.

This video was an excerpt of a temperament test (I didn't know if she would like any of the exercises) from last week/early this week. Tuck-sits first, then attempts at the fold back down (you'll see the bow), and then building drive by restraint. The angle is terrible because I'm still getting used to my space and where to get the best camera view but basically it's getting the treat between them and the floor around the chest area.

I've noticed with Ember, she'll move her front first if she is standing, so I can catch the bend of the elbows as splitting the behavior. But if she's sitting, she just plops.





ps - I REALLY didn't think she'd like the last part of that exercise - the restraint. That day she turned it into an all out game - but ever since she slows down if I try again. Gotta figure out the key to that game she created.
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Gotcha Day: November 14, 2015
Vet-Listed Birthday: May 2, 2014
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#4
That's great, thanks so much. It seems to be a subtle difference between achieving a drop in that the treat is put further back between front legs almost causing them to initially try and look back between their own front feet. I'll work on this one today, it's a trick that has always alluded me.
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#5
I trained a backup using the Pat Parelli horsemanship methods. Once I had the backup, I could have them do it from a sit or a down with ease.
Gotta love 'em.
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#6
I can get a back up, as in moving backwards, yep all the way through the house, up the lounge, or stairs, or even up the wall, but dam I have been struggling with a bum in the air and front down (bow)
Embers video's motivate me to try harder, I had kind of given up on this little trick.
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#7
I could never get Gideon to bow as a trick either, but Micah learned it in 3 tries. Go figure.
Gotta love 'em.
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