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Thanks guys Smile Yes, I'm feeling better. Between the diet change and me taking better care of her coat now (even went out and bought a slicker brush, so now I have 3 ways to brush her LOL), I'm seeing the dog I used to have again. Her coat is SUPER soft again. I can't keep my fingers out of it when she is with me, Still dropping strands and getting a good little pile in our weekly brushing but it's nothing like it was. And it is so shiny!

The only thing left to test for is food intolerances. Next month I'll ask the vet if they have an inexpensive test they can run to give us an idea. However I've also been linked to a test I can order and send off myself for $300. I'm kinda hoping the vet has a cheaper one LOL!

I have also noticed this pattern of....
- eat 1 whole patty for each meal for a few days (recommended feeding)
- eat 1/2 -2/3 patty for 2-3 meals
- skip a meal or three
- eat 1 whole patty again (she ate dinner with gusto today but it took her until almost dinner time to even eat the treat I offered her after breakfast this morning)

Still not sure if this is coming out because of TYPE of food or the AMOUNT, so still experimenting. I have to get through a month of poultry heavy meats before her new order of less poultry and no chicken comes in.

We are still doing pepcid for a little while longer (I'm gonna wait until parents are gone and we're well established before dropping that to as needed, since stress can bring up acid too and all these changes will be stressful). We are only on day 2 but I am already seeing a little bit more movement - less drooling outside and more room changing throughout the day. It isn't much but I am noticing it Smile

I'll cut her back to 2/3. It makes handling the food trickier with a lot more cleanup, but c'est la vie, right?! LOL
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#12
There are NO accurate tests for food intolerances. Due to how a dog's immune system reacts, all tests for food allergies, sensitivities, and intolerances can give both false positives and false negatives. The only true test is an elimination diet.
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(08-16-2017, 04:30 PM)Gideon Wrote: Mine like to eat their raw half frozen.  Go figure.

I'm glad her blood work came back perfect.

So do mine, doesn't faze them at all, it's totally me who feels bad giving them 1/2 frozen in winter mostly.
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(08-16-2017, 06:25 PM)Trifan Wrote:
(08-16-2017, 04:30 PM)Gideon Wrote: Mine like to eat their raw half frozen.  Go figure.

I'm glad her blood work came back perfect.

So do mine, doesn't faze them at all, it's totally me who feels bad giving them 1/2 frozen in winter mostly.

The only thing I have against it is I have to chop it up with a spoon or she takes it out of the bowl and eats it on the carpet (and I can't get her to eat it on tile or anywhere else to clean it up). Bleh! I think she likes the ice crunch, personally.

Thanks GM, I will keep the elimination diet in mind Smile
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If Ember's allergies are from environmental factors she will react more to everything when there are lots of allergens in the air.  I have horrible allergies and I can't tell you the number of times I have been at a restaurant and will order my food based on how bad my allergies are that day.  If I am feeling great I can order anything.  If I am feeling horrible I have to be really careful what I order so I won't react.  So Ember may be able to handle some foods part of the year and not handle them at other times if she has seasonal allergies.

Pepcid is an H2 (histamine) blocker.  I take it for my allergies and I also gave it to my GSD for his allergies and it seemed to work.  So even if Ember isn't suffering from acid reflux she could still benefit from the medicine.
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I have been told by a doctor and a vet, for human and dog, that allergies can cause acid reflux/heartburn. Maybe this is true and it is what is affecting Ember?

I know you have tried many things to get her to eat. Seeing the amounts listed, have you tried only feeding 1/2 the amount at each meal to begin with? Kinda leaving her a bit hungry wanting more? Gradually up it to 2/3 and so on? Is it possible, like it was mentioned, that she doesn't digest as quickly and doesn't need the recommended amounts? 

I have never had a picky eater and can't imagine what it's like. (((hugs)))
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Yea we started at half a pound twice a day, but she quickly ramps up to hunting food in just a day or two. I think 2/3 is probably the magic number, with the leftovers going into stuffing a Kong until it's full (so that will be 1 meal in a kong for every 3). I'm going to be bumping more meals in a kong when I have more prep time. She's now 40.7 lbs, a little higher in a month, but vet loves her weight!
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Micah gets acid reflux from specific foods that he reacts to, mainly grains, but other starchy foods as well. I cut out the "starch" component of his diet and started giving him ACV in his food and haven't had any more issues. Acid reflux can be because the stomach acid isn't strong enough to cause the sphincter muscle at the top of the stomach to close properly. Using antacids defeats whole idea, so I would try other things first.
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Glad you found a good vet! Hopefully you can get a tab on the allergies soon.
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