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Woobie developed a sheltie like tendency to bark alot. Especially during training exercises.

Me: "Woobie, sit."
Woobie: YIP! Sit.
Me: "Woobie, down."
Woobie: YIP YIP! Down. YIP!

That lead to him starting to bark way too much, at me, to get me to do things, let him out, give him treats, etc. So I clicker trained a "Quiet" command. I'd have the clicker and treats in my hand and he'd get all excited and start yipping. I'd say "Quiet" and wait while he yipped. The minute he was quiet for 2 seconds, I'd click to mark that the silence was what I wanted and then treat. Then I'd start extending out the length of time he needed to be quiet. Worked like a charm, now he knows what Quiet means and obeys it.

If your son is home with If now during the summer, it would be a great time for him to work on clicker training with her. There's great free videos that help explain it all over the Internet and on YouTube. It will really bond them, teach If to obey and respond to everyone in the family, not just you, and is great fun for kids.
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Looking forward to seeing that video tassle.i have a pretty good arm for throwing though...lol..

BCMix i just cant see myself using a clicker (although i have read nothing of them or how they work)i assume they hear a clicking noise and come to realize treats or food is associated with it,then you voice command from that point on(after you have the dogs attention?)Straight voice commands are more suited for me..im old school...and truthfully what happens if you go somewhere and your dog hears someone else using a clicker, do they cue into that person?Or is each clicker different..each one has a unique clicking sound?

I have thought about using a dog whistle though ..but even that i can hear it anyways so consistance would be hard to apply.

I know its not a training issue but what about the whiskers on 'ifs throat is that common..she has three under chin at back of throat they point down towards the ground?

Tassle how many commands can a person work on at once and get optimum result...am i working on to many....she has sit , stay, stand .come memorized...
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itooam1 Wrote:I know its not a training issue but what about the whiskers on 'ifs throat is that common..she has three under chin at back of throat they point down towards the ground?

yeah thats normal.

BC Mixs: Hey, I'm going to have to start clicker training myself. I think that Lance, especially, would respond well to it. Smile
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The great thing about a clicker is that it "marks" the behavior for the dog. It's a way of telling the dog "YES, THAT'S IT!" the second they do what it is you're looking for. That's because the amount of time between the dog doing what you want and getting the treat is delayed, so you want something that the dog knows he's working for. I can't explain it as well as the books and videos do, but if you check out the videos, it does a better job of explaining how and why it works. Some people explain it as slot machines, you put in your money and if you win a few coins, you'll keep returning and playing, hoping to get that payoff again. For the dog, the click is the payoff. It's what they work for. They start to think, what do I have to do to get the click? I've watched training classes at PetSmart where there can be 8 people working with their dogs and clickers and the dogs don't seem to get confused, they know the click coming from their owner is the one that pays off. Some people prefer to use "Yes" to mark the behavior and skip the clicker and I've tried that. I still find the sharpest response comes from the clicker, the dogs (mine anyway) seem to "get it" best with that unique sound. It started with training dolphins.
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I have been doing this with Siren for a while now, so her down is pretty quick - you will probably have to walk up to If at first (repeating Down command). As soon as she hits the floor praise her and throw the toy.

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okay got it...looks simple enough...lol...
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Tassle i was reading some stuff about advanced training.....different situations same commands(distractions).
My question is this did i go right into advanced training with if since we have always used the commands with different surrounding,kids at park, playing with other dogs,roads, trail work? If has always been working on her training everywhere we go....and since i dont use a leash at all (i bring it ive just never actually used it)is that advanced training as well?(this isnt normal is it,the no leash training )
IF what we are doing is advanced training what exactly is basic training..or are people just classifing training for simpler understanding?

Also if has taken to waiting for me......she will sit and stay until i am by her side.....if i stop walking she sits down and waits.(i am not exactly sure how this happened...i think she got it from your watch command or her stand command at roads,before we cross.)her recall still needs work its about 92-95 %(come! when anywhere)but her sit is 100% no matter where we are even if shes running or playing with other dogs she halts and sits.
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I wouldn't call distraction training advanced training. Different trainers have different ideas of classifying training exercises.

I would call distraction trainin basic training becasue I (personally) think it is the first training you should install and some of the most important. Advanced training for me would be more specialised training (if you go into Obedience/Agility/herding etc).

Sounds like she is shaping up to be a nice pup. :wink:
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Tassle was wondering if you noticed when is a better time to train a dog..after physical activity or before?
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It depends on what you want to train.

If you are looking at training calm exercises (Stays etc) then its better after physical exercise. If you are training more exciting exercises - serching/retrieving etc, then its better to do it before.

It comes down to knowing your own dog and when they work best really! With my 3 BC's they have been better training before and if I have a competition they don't have a walk in the morning - however the GundogX needs a good walk and at least 20 mins of 'working in' before she is up for being sensible!
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