P.S. Maybe you can find an acceptable game they can play while you supervise and intervene if you don't like how things are going. It is your job to decide what you want the dog to do or not do and let others know your desires. Annoying as I am to my family about it it is totally worth it. I have kids they play frisbee, recall games. NO CHASING GAMES...that encourages excitement and that leads to mouthing. Others may have game ideas. I stink at group kid games. Any help guys?
this helped me alot thank for great advice
I am new to bc's (on #2 now) but not to training (titled a dozen dogs in my life).
Whether or not you allow puppies to bite is NOT something you should determine as a matter of your personal philosophy. It should be a reaction to the temperament of the INDIVIDUAL PUP.
A puppy who is truly aggressive and over-confident should learn to rein that in, but a puppy lacking confidence or who is shy and uses snapping to keep other dogs or people out of their fight-or-flight zone should not be suppressed in the same way. Take away the fight option and you force such a dog to FLEE (or try to flee) whenever he is feeling uncomfortable. Much better is to teach them that they can fight AND WIN -- standing their ground is vastly safer and saner than fleeing in adult life. (There are no other options: fight or flee is what their instinctual package offers.)
I allow puppies to play AND WIN tug of war games until I build their confidence to high levels and only then start winning when it seems they think they are in charge. Much easier to suppress too much confidence than build up too little as an adult. I want my puppies to all have the confidence to STAY IN THE GAME, to have the confidence to put an end to unwanted intrusion into their space while standing tall and not having to flee in an avoidant way when they are uncomfortable. (Some dogs, trapped, flee inwardly, just shutting down -- very sad.)
So the question of puppy mouthing and biting is all about the puppy -- not us. The more you tolerate, the more confidence they will have later and the more alpha challenges you will have to face later. Training a male bull mastiff and you are 100 lbs? Sadly for the bull mastiff, you will have to shut down challenges when he is still a baby. Training a sheltie and you are a grown adult? Shutting down challenges too young creates avoidant scaredy-cats.
As I am a large man with lots of experiences with bigger dogs, I have let my 5 1/2 month old bc bite me quite a lot. Yet by 4-5 months he stopped almost entirely --based upon my mock crying out (like a litter mate -- not an alpha dog). That is, he chose to not hurt me from a position of power, not submission.
Just my opinion, of course.
The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated.
-- Mahatma Gandhi